On 11/6/07, Axel Thimm <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 06:46:04AM -0700, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> > On 11/6/07, Axel Thimm <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 08:47:54AM -0600, Troy Dawson wrote:
> > > > That's a good idea as well.  Find out which repositories from CentOS people
> > > > want in.
> > > > The one thing I worry about with EPEL is that I have heard that they often
> > > > are not compatible with the CentOS, dag, and atrpms repositories.  I
> > > > haven't confirmed this, just heard it once or twice.
> > >
> > > There isn't much to confirm. Since EPEL doesn't want to be compatible
> > > and the others won't take a one-sided burden of compatibilty there
> > > will be no compatibility. If it works it will be by happenstance not
> > > design.
> >
> > Axel, I know you are sleep deprived from a newborn, but that is BS.
> > EPEL has done a lot of stuff to try and stay API/ABI compatible with
> > CentOS and make sure that certain things work out of the box. They
> > have removed packages that were already in CentOS and tried different
> > tags to make sure CentOS didnt get over-written.
> >
> > What they didn't do was do %dist tags, mostly because they felt
> > certain groups drew a line in the sand of do it or else and they like
> > every other developer are stupid enough to cross over it. They are
> > paying for that as they have to go deal with various problems, and my
> > guess is that in a year or two they will review and say "hmmm" that
> > would be a good idea to deal with something.
>
> Long before the newborn entered my life (and made me happier and
> certainly more resitant to BS by EPEL) [1] EPEL was placed before a
> choice of working with 3rd parties or not on the example of repotags
> (*not* disttags). There were explicit requests (not by me) whether
> this is to be interpreted as EPEL-Darwinism which were positively
> acknowldeged by EPEL steering `chairmen'.

> [1] I also feel that this comment on me being overtaxed and the choice
>     of BS'ing my opinion is not really proper. Have a different
>     opinion by all means.

My apologies. I woke up on the wrong side of the bed, and should have
not sent that email until my early morning coffee had kicked in. I
disagree on the fact that EPEL was trying to shutdown other distros
etc... but I should have held my tongue and not used the word BS for
it.


-- 
Stephen J Smoogen. -- CSIRT/Linux System Administrator
How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed
in a naughty world. = Shakespeare. "The Merchant of Venice"