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Karl Misselt <[log in to unmask]>
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Donald Tripp wrote:
> This argument sounds vary familiar to NFS vs GFS vs Lustre vs GPFS... 
> All file systems have their pros and cons, and no file system is fool 
> proof. XFS is a good file system, so is Reiser, and ext3, and HFS 
> (Apple), but they all have their own faults. 
>
> Just my 2 cents...
>
>
> - Donald Tripp
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> HPC Systems Administrator
> High Performance Computing Center
> University of Hawai'i at Hilo
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> Hilo,   Hawaii   96720
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>
> On Aug 8, 2007, at 10:15 AM, Troy Dawson wrote:
>
>> Brent L. Bates wrote:
>>>      The installer will not look in the contrib directories?  Ok.  
>>> Could I as
>>> part of my combining the CD's into a single DVD process, move the 
>>> XFS RPM's
>>> out of the contrib area and into the main stream directories?  Or 
>>> perhaps,
>>> with the DVD I've already burned, do some kind of shell escape out 
>>> of the
>>> install GUI and install them from there?  People want XFS and we 
>>> really don't
>>> care about the top level vendors prejudices.  I'm willing to work 
>>> with the SL
>>> people to get a more reasonable solution to this on going problem.
>>
>> This isn't a "top level vendors prejudices"
>> This is a Scientific Linux Developers prejudices.
>> "People want XFS" until they start loosing critical data.  Trust me, 
>> it's happened here.  They scream for it and scream for it, and then 
>> scream at you when it corrupts stuff and somehow it's all become my 
>> fault.
>>
>> You can do all sorts of stuff in the %post install scripts, including 
>> install stuff from the contrib area.  You are only limited by your 
>> imagination.
>>
>> Troy
>> -- 
>> __________________________________________________
>> Troy Dawson  [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>  (630)840-6468
>> Fermilab  ComputingDivision/LCSI/CSI DSS Group
>> __________________________________________________
>
Hi - This thread comes at an opportune time for me.  We are
experiencing horrible performance on RAID5 arrays on 3Ware
9500S controllers (eg. wait for keystrokes to appear when
doing any kind of IO).  The system is running SL4.4 and it's
been suggested that the kernel scheduler in RHEL4 is at fault,
so I'm currently slowly moving up to SL5 to see if that fixes it.
On the other hand, trying to figure this out, I've seen it suggested
on a gentoo forum from someone with a similar problem that
going to XFS from ext3 was a solution.  However, these questions
of data corruption worry me.  How common is it to lose data on
an XFS filesystem?  Obviously, TUV thinks it's a problem, but
I've only ever seen reference to their 'internal tests'. Do those of
you using (or have used in the past) XFS, see any greater problems
with data integrity?
-Karl


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