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"P. Larry Nelson" <[log in to unmask]>
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P. Larry Nelson
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Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:47:06 -0600
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Michael Mansour wrote on 1/9/2007 5:34 PM:
> Hi,
> 
>> I've got one SL 4.4 system and it has tzdata-2006g-1.EL4.
>> All my SL 3.0.4 systems have tzdata-2004e-1.EL.
>> My one SL 3.0.5 system has tzdata-2005f-1.EL3
>> My RHEL_3 systems have tzdata-2006m-3.el3.
>> My RHEL_4 systems have tzdata-2006m-3.el4.
>> And my RedHat 7.3 and 9.0 systems have no tzdata rpms.  ?
> 
> Old RH releases didn't have separate RPM packages, they were contained in
> glibc RPMs.
> 
>> Other Than the unsupported RH 7.3 and 9.0 systems, all my systems
>> are as up to date as I can make them, given yum cron jobs and RHN
>> notices from RedHat.
> 
> For 7.3 and 9.0 you should (very quickly) update to what was released from the
> Fedora Legacy project. Any moment now they will be removing the servers
> hosting the packages.

Yes, I'm aware of their demise - I've been using them ever since we lost
support from RedHat.  And I've gotten as many updates as I've deemed
applicable.  However, I'm wary of upgrading the glibc RPMs for fear
that will break programs our users are still running on the CDF data.
We've still got one or two folks finishing up, so I'll migrate out of
the RH 7.3 & 9.0 world a few boxes at a time.

>> So, how does one know if times will get changed properly for the
>> new DST changes?
> 
> Use zdump:
> 
> # zdump -v Australia/NSW |grep 2007
> Australia/NSW  Sat Mar 24 15:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 25 02:59:59 2007 EST
> isdst=1 gmtoff=39600
> Australia/NSW  Sat Mar 24 16:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 25 02:00:00 2007 EST
> isdst=0 gmtoff=36000
> Australia/NSW  Sat Oct 27 15:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Oct 28 01:59:59 2007 EST
> isdst=0 gmtoff=36000
> Australia/NSW  Sat Oct 27 16:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Oct 28 03:00:00 2007 EST
> isdst=1 gmtoff=39600

No zdump on any of my systems returns any text with "2007" in it.  They only
return two "1901" and two "2038" lines.

>> And what does one do for unsupported legacy systems?
> 
> Decommission them or upgrade their OS releases. Fedora Legacy is no longer
> active and is shutdown, but you may be able to pickup their packages before
> they remove them from the ftp servers.
> 
> Other than that, use zic to compile your own zone information.
> 
>> Don't think I want to look forward to manually changing 50+ systems.
>> Also can't say I've heard of this change in start/end time for DST.
>> Ah well...
> 
> If you have legacy systems in place, you should have started migration of them
> to either decommission or upgrade about 12 months ago now. You're long overdue.
>
> Due to their unsupported nature, they can be easily compromised either now (if
> you haven't been using fedora legacy RPMs) or in the not to distant future if
> you have.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael.

Yep, the migration to all SL 4.4 (except for some key servers which will
remain RHEL) is about to begin.  I know they're long overdue - wanted to
migrate as much as 2 years ago, but it wasn't my call.  Legacy CDF code
was still being run and it would not run on anything but RH 7.3.
Now, of course, the code has been ported (so I'm told) so as to run on
SL 4.4, and that's where I intend to go, hopefully before March 11 when
the time changes!  :-)

Thanks for the response!
- Larry
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