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Connie Sieh <[log in to unmask]>
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Connie Sieh <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 9 Jan 2007 11:07:16 -0600
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Troy Dawson wrote:

> Keith Lofstrom wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 27, 2006 at 10:03:52AM -0800, Keith Lofstrom wrote:
> >> So, the question:  If you had to pick a current distro that is closest
> >> to what SL5 will eventually be, would you start with SL4.2 or with
> >> Fedora Core 6?  
> > 
> > On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 08:18:14AM +0000, Keith Lofstrom wrote:
> > ...
> >> I also discovered that RHEL5 beta 2 is available (!) at:
> >>
> >>   ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/beta/RHEL5-Beta2/

We have a "alpha" of this beta.  It is located at

ftp://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/5rolling/

-Connie Sieh
> >>
> >> I made some CDs, and did an install on a spare drive, and RHEL5b2
> >> more or less works.  The gnome logout process does not have a checkbox
> >> for "Save Current Setup", but I've found no other annoyances so far.
> >>
> >> So, new plan.  I will duplicate the SL4.4 drive onto the spare drive,
> >> then try an RHEL5 upgrade on that drive and see what breaks.  If that
> >> works, I may continue my upgrade/rebuild work on that drive.  
> > 
> > And here I ran into the next bottleneck - perhaps due to the way
> > anaconda works.  When I try to upgrade from SL4.4 to RHEL5 beta 2,
> > the installer does not recognize the older version of Linux and
> > wants to do a clean install with a repartition.  One can "custom"
> > past the repartition and reformat, but it still wants to select
> > new packages and seems to ignore what's there.  I did not commit
> > to the install - perhaps it mentions upgrade in the next page, but
> > that would be at the point that the install process normally starts
> > installing new RPMs.  
> > 
> > So, here's the NEW question:  is it possible to upgrade SL5 over the
> > top of RHEL5, or vice versa?  
> I have no idea, considering neither is out, I really don't feel that's a 
> fair question to ask.
> 
> To be honest, we haven't even tried RHEL4 to SL4, although I'm sure some 
> people have.  In theory, you really should just need to install yum and 
> yum-conf, do a yum upgrade, and it should do most the work.  It won't 
> uninstall all of redhat's rpms and re-install ours.  But it should 
> convert the basic things like /etc/redhat-release, and things like that.
> 
> > Will it be possible to upgrade SL5 over the top of SL4?
> 
> Yes, it should be.
> Right now I really really really wouldn't suggest it.  Not only have no 
> bugs been worked out, it hasn't even been looked at.  Since names change 
> and packages come and go before a release (I'm talking RHEL 5), it's not 
> really worth our time to iron out any bugs except the installer seeing SL4.
> Just so you know, the installer does see S.L. 4 and gives you the option 
> of upgrading if you wish.
> 
> > Am I running into some bizarre behavior wired into
> > beta versions in general or RHEL5 beta 2 in particular, that I won't
> > see with a future SL4.4 -> SL5 upgrade?
> 
> Yes.
> Because names change alot from alpha to beta to final release, you could 
> do an upgrade, and have some package orphaned, not getting and update, 
> because it was a different name in the alpha or beta.
> 
> Troy
> 
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