On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Troy Dawson wrote:

> Stephan Wiesand wrote:
<snip>
>>  Just in case it may help (I'm quite sure you don't need it, but who
>>  knows), I've put up the spec for my test build here:
>>
>>    http://www-zeuthen.desy.de/~wiesand/firefox-SL.spec
>>
>>  No input files were changed except the spec and Source12 (the default
>>  bookmarks).
>> 
>
> First answer
> Yes, we plan on backporting the firefox 1.5.x to S.L. 3.0.x.
> We do not plan on pushing it right out into the mainstream errata because 
> this is a major change.  It will go into the 30rolling, or maybe the 
> 30rolling/testing area.  We want people to be able to have access to them and 
> test them out.

I'll put the test (i386) versions on a couple of boxes for some (light) 
testing once I know where to pull them from...

I can't see an obvious 30rolling/testing area or I couldn't 10 mins ago 
anyway.  Did it just get created?

Anyway I still need to re-work some of my post-install hacks to cope with 
having seamonkey instead of mozilla...

> I already have the i386 version done, based on Jarek's changes.  The only 
> variation is he didn't mention changing the bookmarks, which I have done.
>
> I am a little supprised that people are having problem with Pango, because 
> for the older backports (firefox 1.0.x) we pulled the pango patches out, and 
> nobody complained about those.  But, as has been said, this is a major 
> change.

For firefox 1.0.x (1.0.8 at least) the specfile had pango-related 
*patches* commented out, but was still linked against the SL3 pango 
(1.2.x).  [ The patches required a newer version of pango (I think!) ].

Disabling pango might cause problems for some (e.g. Far-Eastern) text, or 
it might be that ffox just uses it's own routines if pango is unavailable 
or disabled.

Firefox 1.5.x seems to need a newer version of pango than SL3 comes with.

> I am not against making another compile of the firefox with your (Stephan) 
> spec file, and put it up to let people see if it fixes or breaks anything. 
> If we don't have to change the firefox-mozconfig file that would be nice, one 
> less change we have to worry about.

The specfile mentioned above says:

  * Sat Jul 29 2006 Stephan Wiesand <[log in to unmask]> - 1.5.0.5-0.SL3.1
  - made it build and install on SL3 (no pango)
  - replaced default bookmarks with SL ones

so I'd assume that it *is* disabling pango too...

I'd certainly be happy with a pango-less version initially (hey most of 
the world just uses iso-8859-1 anyway!!) though if that annoys lots of 
people it might be worth re-visiting later...

  -- Jon