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Connie Sieh <[log in to unmask]>
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Connie Sieh <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 14 Jun 2006 16:21:35 -0500
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On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Connie Sieh wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Jon Peatfield wrote:
> 
> > > sl-fastbugs - disabled by default - These are bugfixes that are put out by 
> > > the upstream vendor, before the official updates. At the time of this 
> > > writting, this is a new program, that the vendor calls 'fasttrack'. It is not 
> > > enabled by default, because sometimes bugfixes change the way a program 
> > > works, and the releases of S.L. are designed to be very stable.
> > >
> > > sl-bugfix-44 - disabled by default - These are the non-errata, updated 
> > > packages from the next release. In this case, sl-bugfix-44, is in S.L. 4.3, 
> > > and it points to all the bugfixes that happened in S.L. 4.4. Since S.L. 4.4 
> > > currently isn't out yet, this repository is empty. When S.L. 4.4 is released, 
> > > this repository will be populated, and S.L. 4.4 configuration will have 
> > > sl-bugfix-45.
> > 
> > I find the term non-errata slightly confusing since the vendor refers to 
> > all 3 kinds (security/bugfix/enhancements) as errata...
> > 
> > What about (non-security) errata that the Vendor *has* released (after a 
> > given release).  atm there arn't many examples of those at the moment, 
> > though ypserv *is* one e.g.:
> > 
> >    https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2006-0263.html
> > 
> > mentions ypserv-2.13-11 which isn't anywhere obvious other than 
> > 43/<arch>/errata/fastbugs/... at the moment (ypserv-2.13-9 is in 
> > 42/<arch>/SL/RPMS/ of course since that was current at the 43 release).

When the Upstream Vendor puts things in fastbugs it does not send out a 
notice of this.  Some have asked for a mailing list but this has not been 
created.

-Connie Sieh
 > > 
> > [ Aside: While looking at this I noticed that lmbench and rh2r (which had 
> > bugfix releases last month) arn't anywhere in sl43 at all.  Is this 
> > because there is no source or are they excluded for some other reason? ]
> 
> If the Upstream Vendor releases the src.rpm then we include it.  So it is
> not included because the upstream vendor does not provide a src.rpm for
> it.  In this case the upstream vendor does not include lmbench in RHEL.  
> They do include lmbench in their "Hardware Certification" product but the
> src.rpm is not on
> 
>   ftp.redhat.com:/pub/redhat/linux/updates/enterprise/4AS/en/
> 
> so we do not rebuild it.
> 
> I did not find rh2r so do not know the status of it.
> 
> -Connie Sieh
> 
>  > 
> > I'd always assumed that SL only (normally) included the security related 
> > errata (plus any dependencies etc), but now with bugfix/fastbugs etc 
> > things aren't so clear.  Has this changed?  Do non-security errata now get 
> > into the main errata/SL/RPMS/ space?
> > 
> > Or am I just missing something about how the term errata is defined/used?
> > 
> >   -- Jon
> > 
> 

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