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Jon Peatfield <[log in to unmask]>
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Jon Peatfield <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 11 Apr 2006 03:40:27 +0100
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On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Angel Tsankov wrote:

>> > > > > >  I downloaded the kernel sources and I'm going to patch and 
>> > > > > >  recompile them to fix the bug with "iptables -t mangle -j TTL"
>> > > > > >  producing
>> > > > > >  "No chain/target/match by that name".
>
>>  Try modprobe ipt_ttl
>
> This seems OK:
> [root@VM2 sysconfig]# modprobe ipt_ttl

Note that there there are 2 ttl netfilter extensions providing unrelated 
pieces of functionality (well sort of).

http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO/netfilter-extensions-HOWTO-3.html#ss3.20

   This patch by Harald Welte <[log in to unmask]> adds a new match that
   allows you to match a packet based on its TTL.

   For example if you want to log any packet that have a TTL less than 5,
   you can do as follows :

   # iptables -A INPUT -m ttl --ttl-lt 5 -j LOG
...

http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO/netfilter-extensions-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.8

   This patch by Harald Welte <[log in to unmask]> adds a new target that
   enables the user to set the TTL value of an IP packet or to
   increment/decrement it by a given value.

   For example, if you want to set the TTL of all outgoing connections to
   126, you can do as follows :

   # iptables -t mangle -A OUTPUT -j TTL --ttl-set 126
...

The ttl match code is pretty standard (ipt_ttl is there in SL kernels 
etc), but the ttl target one is (apparently) still not in the standard
kernels (or were not a year ago).

Therefore if you need ipt_TTL you *will* need to apply a kernel patch, 
then turn on the CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_TTL option (as compared to 
CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_TTL), and re-compile, install, reboot, and modprobe 
ipt_TTL etc etc.

Confusingly the iptables *command* does know about '-j TTL' already which 
is why it can give help messages etc, but it won't work without the 
ipt_TTL module building (the maintainers of that can just add new stuff, 
while getting things into the kernel takes much longer...)

I do wonder under what circumstances changing the TTL is a *good* thing to 
do.  Perhaps there is another way to avoid needing to do this.  IMHO using 
the iptables mangle table is best avoided in most cases :-)

  -- Jon

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