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Fabian Braennstroem <[log in to unmask]>
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Fabian Braennstroem <[log in to unmask]>
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Sat, 13 Aug 2005 17:40:39 +0200
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Hi Troy,

* Troy wrote 13 Aug 2005:

> Fabian Braennstroem wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I just saw scientificlinux on the net and wonder where the
> >advantages compared to other distributions (e.g. centOS)
> >are. I suppose that I can use the same packages!?
> >Is it more suitable for scientific work like the name
> >implies?
> >
> 
> This is a question I think we'll need to put up on the FAQ page.  It's a 
> good one, that get's asked enough.  But for now, here is at least what I 
> feel the answer is.
> 
> First off, we believe that CentOS and Scientific Linux are both 
> compatible, for the most part.  We don't guarantee that, but since both 
> distributions strive to be RHEL compatible, and we believe both have 
> achieved that goal, we feel that they are compatible.
> Second off, we do not feel they are 'competitors'.  (I know that wasn't 
> in your question, but others ask it)  Many of the main developers are on 
> the same mailing lists, and we try to help each other out whenever 
> feasible.  There is cooperation between our two distributions.
> 
> So, to the main question, what is different.
> 
> One of S.L. goals is for a person to install the release they want 
> (let's say S.L. 3.0.2) and be able to sit at that release and know that 
> nothing is going to change except security errata.  That is why you will 
> see that we still have 3.0.1, 3.0.2, etc...  This is because several of 
> the experiments or labs have tested 'this particular release' whatever 
> that release is, and they don't want anything changing on it.
> CentOS is different in that their releases get upgraded to the 'head' 
> release after it is released.  So if you installed what we consider 
> 3.0.4, and then when 3.0.5 came out, you would automatically be upgraded.
> We aren't saying one is better than the other, just that that is a 
> difference.  We are putting things in place so that if a person wants to 
> have S.L. automatically update to the latest they can, but that won't be 
> the default.
> 
> Another difference is the concept of 'sites' in Scientific Linux.  This 
> is something that is different ... from any other linux release that I 
> know.  It is a way for a 'site' (like a lab or a University) to put in 
> various changes, like scripts, rpm's, installer changes, and customize 
> their site, yet still retain S.L. compatiblilty and continue to get the 
> security updates.  This is how we create Scientific Linux Fermi, and I 
> believe there are a few others that use this functionality.
> 
> Our sponsors are different.
> Scientific Linux is mainly sponsored by scientific lab's and 
> Universities around the world.  Mostly by Fermilab and CERN.  There are 
> other's that contribute and help, most definatly.  But those are our 
> main sponsors.
> CentOS is a purely community based OS.  All of their sponsors, their 
> servers, bandwidth, and contibutions have come completely from the 
> community.
> This difference tends to give each of us a different point of view when 
> looking at various ways of developing our releases.
> 
> Is Scientific Linux better for scientific applications?
> Basically it is called Scientific Linux because it is made by scientific 
> labs, for scientific labs and universities.  It is not named Scientific 
> Linux because it has the largest collection of scientific programs.  It 
> was named back when it was small, and only the scientific labs were 
> using it.
> 
> 
> >And a small OT question. If there are certain packages
> >missing, is it possible to build them using an existing
> >rpmsrc-Package from fedora and install it? I am actually
> >using archlinux right now and like the ability to build own
> >packages.
> >
> 
> Certainly, although I would suggest looking to see if someone else has 
> already compiled them.  Check out our repository site
> 
> https://www.scientificlinux.org/community/repo/

Very informativ, thanks! I will try it the next weeks and
province the admin at my institute :-)

Best Greetings!
Fabian
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