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Connie Sieh <[log in to unmask]>
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Connie Sieh <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 9 Aug 2005 09:50:38 -0500
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Marco,

I think if you do a "minimal" install (available on the "groups" screen 
way at the bottom) then you get about 550mb.

-Connie Sieh

On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Marco La 
Rosa wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Thanx for the responses!
> 
> Not long after sending the first email I was looking on the sl304 CD and
> found the comps.xml and pkgorder files. Using the comps.xml file I built
> a list of necessary rpms using the core and base sections and then
> ordered them using pkgorder.
> 
> Using:
> 
> rpm -ivh --nodeps --root /new-chroot package-blah-123.rpm
> 
> I built myself a system. Well, it became a system following multiple:
> 
> rpm -Va --root /new-chroot  followed by more package installation,
> followed by rpm -vA 
> 
> 	--> well, you get the gist.
> 
> That worked fine except the base system ending up being something like
> 600Mb! (I think my debian system was something like 200Mb) A quick
> google search turned up a heated debate as to why RH makes their base
> system so big (which stopped me from writing to the list and complaining
> about redhat ;-)
> 
> After looking around some more, I stumbled across rpmstrap. I gave it my
> original minimal list (just the base and core rpms) and it died
> spectacularly! Tried it again with my sanctioned, enormous (600 Mb)
> package list and it worked. But, it didn't occur to me to try the centos
> list. I'll give that a go and see how big their system is.
> 
> So, I have one question:
> Is my base system about the correct size (what is expected)? 
> 
> So that's my experience with building a base (or something like that)
> SciLin (RH) system without using the gui. 
> 
> Parents, tell your children not to try this at home! ;)
> 
> Thanx again,
> Marco.
> 
> 
>  
> 
> On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 11:27 -0500, Connie Sieh wrote:
> > rpmstrap comes with centos3 and centos4 config files.  I suggest that you 
> > just change the "mirror" locations of these as SL is compatible with 
> > centos3 and centos4.  There are a few entries that have "centos" in the 
> > name that need changing.  Just remove the "centos-" part.
> > 
> > -Connie Sieh
> >  On Thu, 4 Aug 2005, John A. Goebel wrote:
> > 
> > > ++ 04/08/05 10:50 -0500 - <Connie Sieh>:
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > > And the "core" entry too.
> > > > 
> > > > -Connie Sieh
> > > > On Thu, 4 Aug 2005, Troy Dawson wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Marco La Rosa wrote:
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I was wondering if anyone has a list of packages (in the correct
> > > > > > installation order) required to build a minimal, bootable Sci Linux 304
> > > > > > system?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I have found a software package called rpmstrap (google rpmstrap) which
> > > > > > works like debootstrap but it requires a package list.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanx in advance,
> > > > > > Marco.
> > > > > 
> > > > > A good start would be to look in the comps.xml file and get all the 
> > > > > rpm's in the section "base"
> > > > > To be honest, I think you can actually take out some of even the base 
> > > > > one's, but I'm not sure which ones.  But it's the best place to start.
> > > > > 
> > > > > ftp://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/304/i386/SL/base/comps.xml
> > > 
> > > Troy pointed to the 304 version. I just wanted to give you a heads-up if your
> > > thinking about using 40x. Unless the SciLinux developers have changed the
> > > comps.xml list to include tftp client, it's not included in the base or
> > > anywhere else in the list. This will hurt you if you plan to do PXE boot since
> > > the common scheme is to tftp a file, often called 'Kickstart_end', to indicate
> > > the install is done and remove the hex link file so PXE is ignored and the
> > > system boots locally. 
> > > 
> > > This bit me last night.
> > > 
> > > Modifying and rebuilding the list isn't hard though.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > John
> > > 
> > > > > Troy
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > ##############################################
> > > # John Goebel <jgoebel(at)slac.stanford.edu> #
> > > # Stanford Linear Accelerator Center         #
> > > # 2575 Sand Hill Road, Menlo Park, CA 94025  #
> > > ############################################ #
> > > 
> 
> 

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