On 11/01/2011 08:42 AM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Yasha Karant<[log in to unmask]>  wrote:
>> On 10/30/2011 03:02 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
>
>>> I should also note that kernel-ml is not for production use but it's
>>> been quite stable and Alan has been doing a good job of keeping it up
>>> to date. :-)
>>>
>>> http://elrepo.org/tiki/kernel-ml
>>>
>>> Akemi
>
[snip-
> No, I was not referring to the mainline kernel available from
> kernel.org. It was about the *kernel-ml* package from elrepo.org.  I
> was hoping everybody would read the link I provided in my post before
> using the kernel-ml package. Here once again:
>
> http://elrepo.org/tiki/kernel-ml
>
> In the Notes section:
>
> "These packages are provided As-Is with no implied warranty or
> support. Using the kernel-ml may expose your system to security,
> performance and/or data corruption issues. Since timely updates may
> not be available from the ELRepo Project, the end user has the
> ultimate responsibility for deciding whether to continue using the
> kernel-ml packages in regular service."
>
> That is what meant by "not for production use". Of course you can use
> it as far as you know what you are doing/using. The kernel-ml package
> was intended for hardware testing that may not be covered by the kmod
> packages.
>
> However, further discussion regarding the ELRepo packages must go to
> the elrepo mailing lists:
>
> http://elrepo.org/tiki/MailingLists
>
> Akemi

From:  https://www.redhat.com/licenses/rhel_rha_eula.html

3. Limited Warranty. Except as specifically stated in this Section 3, a 
separate agreement with Red Hat, or a license for a particular 
component, to the maximum extent permitted under applicable law, the 
Programs and the components are provided and licensed "as is" without 
warranty of any kind, expressed or implied, including the implied 
warranties of merchantability, non-infringement or fitness for a 
particular purpose.

AND further along in Section 3

Neither Red Hat nor its affiliates warrants that the functions contained 
in the Programs will meet your requirements or that the operation of the 
Programs will be entirely error free, appear or perform precisely as 
described in the accompanying documentation, or comply with regulatory 
requirements.

End quote.  Although mention is made of a particular vendor (due to this 
being a quote from the EULA of that vendor and thus fair use under 
copyright requires such attribution), the quote is for illustrative 
purposes.

How does the above lack of warranty from a commercial for-profit vendor 
differ from the "These packages are provided As-Is with no implied 
warranty or support" from el-repo or the similar disclaimer from SL? 
This is not a discussion of specific ElRepo packages, but a general 
question of interest to all users of packages advertised on the SL list 
-- ElRepo in this particular instance.

Yasha Karant