I do not want to indulge in a prolonged discourse.

On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 21:14 -0500, Phong Nguyen wrote:

> Microsoft is more interested in true competition these days, not the
>  least to get the EU and US DOJ off their backs. Note that they have
>  contributed quite a bit of code to the kernel to get Linux running
>  smoothly on Hyper-V, for example. There is no need to cry "conspiracy"
>  for UEFI Secure Boot - it solves a very real security problem for the
>  vast majority of end-users. Technically minded users, again, can *shut
>  it off*, or choose a vendor who will not play games with a user's
>  machine. 

Micro$oft needs to expand its income to satisfy shareholders.
Maintaining current income is considered a corporate failure. Damaging
or reducing or hindering the competition are desirable business and
financial objectives for M$.

> > I have been doing precisely that in the last few days. The
> > revelations I have seen in law enforcement documentation utterly
> > reinforces my long-held concern M$ Windoze was designed to permit
> > clandestine third-party access and to secretly record the user's
> > activities on the user's computer.

>  You would be able to provide primary source documentation to such
>  intent?

Why ? If you are truly unaware then you should do your own research free
of any influence from me.

>  Further, what prevents  law enforcement from doing the same to
>  any other operating system?  Once physical access is compromised (and
>  clandestine software  installation would almost certainly be through
>  this route), all bet  are off. 

The clandestine access is not physical access but remote access. It has
been possible since at least 1998, if not earlier.

> In no case have I said they are sweet and gentle. Microsoft is out to
> win, but there is no need to spread fear, uncertainty and doubt when
> the truth will suffice. Don't cry wolf, it means that people will take
> you less seriously. 

I care not what others may think or know about M$. People who take me
seriously are those that already respect my professional knowledge and
judgement.

You are obviously young and naive. Perhaps in another 10 or 20 years
your perspective may become more enlightened. Your ignorance on this
topic is neither my responsibility nor concern.

> > You will be writing next that Google is not the world's biggest spying
> > operation and it was never encouraged and funded by Uncle Sam, or more
> > accurately by the USA tax payers.
> > 
> Insinuation will get you nowhere. 

Insinuation ?  Don't you ever read the USA news ???

With respect, there is little justification continuing this with a
sufferer from closed-mind syndrome and/or unaware of his own
surroundings in his own country.

I'll finish now.

With best regards,

Paul.