Shane,

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Shane Canon wrote:

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> Now that the SRPMs are available, is the build underway?

yes.  All was rebuilt by Wednesday when I did my first install.

  Also, do 
you
> have any documentation on how the rebuild is done.  For example,
> ~  * how are things bootstrapped?

Start with last RHEL4 beta.  In this case it was Beta2 .
Build all rpms from SRPMS.

> ~  * Do you rebuild off the initial build (similar to what gcc does
> ~   during a build)?

Guess I do not know what gcc does.  But I suspect it is similar.  
After all the rpms are rebuilt while running the latest RHEL4 beta.  I 
update all of the rpms that have been updated in the real release.
I now have all the latest versions installed.

I then rebuild all of the RPMS again.  (done this yesterday and today)

I then rebuild all the errata that have been released.  Quite a few of 
those this time.  I upgrade to those.  

> ~  * What is the environment set to?
> 

I do not understand the question.

> The CAOS/CentOS guys have this mezzanine build environment.  I wonder if

I had looked at the a long time ago and decided at the time that we did 
not need that.  This was back in Oct 2003 when RedHat released rhel3 and 
the rebuild was just for Fermi.

I am now researching using ABE from RedHat.  It seems to be simple to
install. Am hoping that it can be used by other Scientific Linux
developers to make building easier for them and thus get more help. It is
a chroot rebuild environment that can handle x86_64 and i386 along with
different distros such as RHEL3 and RHEL4.

> using that or creating something similar would be worthwhile.  It would
> be useful if each build had a log of, at least, ...

Not really sure why this is so useful.  I have made a log of rebuilds 
since I have started doing this and have not used it yet.

I started way back with scripts that I wrote to do this rebuilding.  We
lost a disk and I lost my scripts so I got the scripts from the TAO
project.  Changed them a bit. They were actually close to what I had
already done.

> > ~  * All environment variables 

The environment variables do not change.

> ~  * Currently installed packages and versions

That could be useful.
Easy to get.  Could just add it to my current scripts.

-Connie Sieh
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> - --Shane
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> Connie Sieh wrote:
> | Michael,
> |
> | On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Michael Mansour wrote:
> |
> |
> |>Hi Troy,
> |>
> |>Well, as you said below RHEL 4 has been released. It's available for
> download
> |>now on RHN.
> |
> |
> | Having it released on RHN is of no good.  We need the SRPMS released via
> | public ftp which has now happened.  Rebuilding in progress.
> |
> | -Connie Sieh
> |
> |
> |>Michael.
> |>
> |>
> |>>Hi Michael,
> |>>There has been no 'official' word from RedHat, there never is.  But
> |>>the word in all the news reports is that they will release it at
> |>>LinuxWorld, which is February 14-17.  So it looks like there might
> |>>be a Valentines Day release.  (I know that's just what my wife
> |>>wanted :) )
> |>>
> |>>When will the S.L. 4.x first beta/alpha release be?
> |>>
> |>>That depends on a couple of factors.
> |>>The most important is 'When will RedHat release their source?'  If
> |>>they are consistent, and release their source code the day they
> |>>release their product.  Then our guess is better. The second is 'Are
> |>>there any hidden critical gotcha's in their source code?'  Now we
> |>>know there is always some hidden gotcha's with each redhat release,
> |>> this includes their updates.  The question is are there any
> |>>critical gotcha's.  Something that makes it impossible to release.
> |>>If there aren't any, then our guess is even better.
> |>>
> |>>So the guess we've said once at Hepix, and we believe this is still true
> |>>**  2 weeks after RedHat releases 4 and it's source.  **
> |>>It might be earlier, it might be later, but ruffly 2 weeks.
> |>>
> |>>Now this will be an alpha release.  Basically it will just be a
> |>>recompile, with all the legal issues taken care of.  (RedHat's name,
> |>>graphics, trademarks, etc... removed or left in depending on the
> |>>license for the product).  If there ARE any 'gotchas' those gotchas
> |>>may not be included. But we want to get it out so it can be tested.
> |>>
> |>>Troy Dawson
> |>>
> |>>Michael Mansour wrote:
> |>>
> |>>>Hi,
> |>>>
> |>>>I'm not sure of the release schedule for RHEL4/SL4 so thought I'd just
> |>
> |>quickly
> |>
> |>>>ask here. Does anyone know when RHEL4 will be released? and then
> following
> |>>>that, when would SL4 be released?
> |>>>
> |>>>Thanks.
> |>>>
> |>>>Michael.
> |>>>
> |>>>
> |>>
> |>>--
> |>>__________________________________________________
> |>>Troy Dawson  [log in to unmask]  (630)840-6468
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