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Steven Haigh <[log in to unmask]>
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On 10/03/2015 11:12 PM, Mark Stodola wrote:
> On 3/9/2015 6:20 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:
>> On 03/07/2015 04:21 PM, Chris Schanzle wrote:
>>> On 03/06/2015 06:58 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:
>>>> My department is being forced by the university administrative IT
>>>> unit to MS Office365 distributed server ("cloud") email service, as
>>>> I have communicated in a previous query.  We are now being advised
>>>> by others who have been forced to do this -- but of course not by IT
>>>> -- to backup all of our email.  I use Mozilla Thunderbird, incoming
>>>> IMAP, outgoing to a designated SMTP server.   I have found
>>>>
>>>> http://www.beyondinbox.com/beyondinbox-download.html
>>>>
>>>> licensed for fee that claims to function under Linux, MacOS X, and
>>>> MS Windows for this purpose.  There are concerns to find a viable
>>>> licensed-for-free product that will copy IMAP folders and all of the
>>>> contents thereof to a local harddrive directory/file structure and
>>>> that can restore these same IMAP folders and the contents thereof
>>>> back to a remote IMAP service -- thus guarding against loss -- up to
>>>> the last backup snapshot -- of all email.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone any experience with the above application?  is there a
>>>> licensed for free reliable, viable alternative, GUI preferred, for
>>>> Linux?
>>>>
>>>> Yasha Karant
>>>
>>> I've had good luck with imapsync[1] to make backup copies to another
>>> IMAP server.  It's smart and useful for migrating many accounts from
>>> one imap service to another, but it's also useful for just syncing
>>> one account.
>>>
>>> When we migrated to the cloud, I had expectations of the cloud just
>>> vaporizing or turning into a thundercloud and taking a dump on us,
>>> but it has been OK.  MS hasn't lost any of our mail. Thunderbird does
>>> occasionally re-download all folders on my various systems (fedora,
>>> windows, CentOS 6) which takes a long time for my years of email
>>> archives due to their throttling (which has vastly improved as well
>>> -- use to take a week with many fatal errors while using it normally;
>>> now completes in about a day and rarely a failure).  The root cause
>>> of this is unknown - could be when they move me to another 'pod' or
>>> when they muck with my folders (redownload happened recently when
>>> they added "Clutter").
>>>
>>> [1] http://imapsync.lamiral.info/
>>
>> At present, my department chair is suggesting:
>>
>> http://www.mailstore.com/en/mailstore-home-email-archiving.aspx
>>
>> that is licensed for free for "home" use -- presumably meaning single
>> user unless one really must work from home for this use.
>>
>> Note that this application does not support Linux.  Hence, my plan
>> is:  under SL run VirtualBox running MS Win 7 pro running the above
>> application, but save all of the produced files on the Linux "side"
>> using VirtualBox shared folders.  Many of my colleagues here do not
>> use MS Win as the primary OS environment; most use Linux or MacOS X
>> with open system extensions (e.g., fink).  The colleague who suggested
>> the above application is using MS Win on his workstation.
>>
>> Has anyone had any experience with this sort of scheme or this
>> application?
>>
>> Yasha Karant
> 
> I would just pick something that seems to have merit and _try_ it.  At
> worst, it doesn't do what you intended and you go find something else to
> try.  I am in a similar situation (mail migration) and am planning on
> trying Chris's suggestion of imapsync.
> 
> Setting up an entire virtual machine seems a bit overblown for email
> save/restore.  Also, don't get too caught up on the licensing.  If you
> are doing it 1 time for a handful of users, I wouldn't worry too much. 
> If you are going to use it on a regular basis, continuously, then the
> licensing becomes much more of an issue.  If you look at the licensing
> plans, you can see it is bracketed by user count and on an annual basis,
> targeted as a long term backup solution.
> 
> My advice, if you are using linux, find a linux solution.  There are
> dozens of scripts/programs out there to do this, just pick one and
> experiment.
> 
> -Mark

Apologies if I've jumped in part way and missed something - but
fetchmail should do this?

Seems people are trying to reinvent the wheel?

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Steven Haigh

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