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Konstantin Olchanski <[log in to unmask]>
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Konstantin Olchanski <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:04:53 -0800
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On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 08:33:05PM +0100, David Sommerseth wrote:
> On 12/11/12 22:14, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 08:14:41AM -0600, Robert Blair wrote:
> >> I have a system that failed to boot after the most recent kernel update.
> >>  It took a while, but I eventually traced it to the initramfs not having
> >> raid1 included.  I had to manually do a "mkinitrd --preload raid1" ...
> >>
> >> ... dracut-004-283.el6.noarch
> >
> > All are invited to inspect the mdadm-related code in dracut.
> > 
> 
> I've been uncertain if I should respond to this mail or not.  But I
> struggle to let such rants pass when I think this is a really an unfair
> attack.

I say "inspect the product in question" then decide if my attach is "fair" or not.

> ... But I do react to your claim which sounds like you think the upstream
> developers are clueless and don't care about what they do.

That is not what I said. I did not say they are stupid, I did not say they
are indifferent or malicious. I said that they are crazy. There is a difference.

Some crazy stuff works great, this one does not.

> All the code in this Enterprise Linux distro comes from an open source
> upstream source.  There are usually upstream communities to discuss
> things with.  And there are communities where you can provide patches
> fixing things you find not being in a good shape.

There is a minor problem with your suggestion that I send bug fixes
to upstream:

Upstream is at dracut-024 (Oct-2012), SL6 is at dracut-004 (January-2010).

I can elaborate on how bug fixes to upstream do no good to SL users.

> Throwing out such trash which you did will definitely not improve
> anything.  Upstream developers do really deserve better treatment from
> us - no matter what we think of their work.

Please refer to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor's_New_Clothes

-- 
Konstantin Olchanski
Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow!
Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca
Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada

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