On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 5:12 PM, zxq9 <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> On 07/30/2013 10:26 PM, Tom H wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia<[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Tom H<[log in to unmask]>  wrote:
>>> Thanks, good link. I'm just concerned it's going to cause build
>>> problems for *every single open source daemon* as their SRPM's or
>>> .spec files need to have two sets of options, one for the older SysV
>>> init scripts and one for systemd, or need to be split to two different
>>> .spec files. This is going to be so much fun!
>>
>> You're welcome.
>>
>> Very true. Similar to some current Fedora spec files:
>>
>> %if 0%{?rhel}
>> ...
>> %endif
>> %if 0%{?fedora}
>> ...
>> %endif
>>
>> An eyesore and a mess; until December 2020...
>
> tl;dr, Relevant Fedora thread first:
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-October/thread.html#172159
>
> Reminds me of a dismal post from October:
> http://zxq9.com/archives/711

I was only commenting on the more complex and unreadable spec files.
Otherwise I'm happy about systemd and journald. In short, the kernel
has evolved, the applications have evolved, why not the init system?