Hi @ all,
interesting discussion, thx for information Vladimir, this looks
promising / interesting!
ToddAndMargo,
i remember when last time 6.0 was out and i remember quite a lot
people complaining about unavailability of their favorite apps on it.
I think - give it time, come 7.1 or 7.2 and 3rd party repos will catch
up and all will be much easier for regular users.
I remember ppl complaining about switch from KDE 3x->4x and now it is
Gnome 2x->3x .. it will all settle down :]
I think just use the 6x for couple more months, build KVM test machine,
watch repos for stuff and switch at later time - at least this is what
i'm gonna do.
I'll switch from 6->7 on my laptop come 7.1 or 7.2.
From server perspective, i just built few testing machines for testing
IPA and Samba4. Not gonna move from 389-DS + SSSD + Samba3 env. for next
like year i think.
Samba4 still doesnt have AD capability on ELs and it's gonna take
probably some time before the MIT vs Heimdal kerberos clash in Samba4 on
SL(rhel)distro is settled ..
cheers :]
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On 11/08/2014 12:54 PM, Vladimir Mosgalin wrote:
> Hi ToddAndMargo!
>
> On 2014.11.07 at 13:45:56 -0800, ToddAndMargo wrote next:
>
>> SL 7 is now 64 bit only. Means no 32 bit Windows applications
>> under 64 bit only Wine. OUCH!
>
> Not a big deal, because SL7 offers excellent container functionality,
> which makes using fedora's wine as easy as it can possibly get.
>
>> SL 7 is also still suffering from the out-of-dates. The base
>> system is up to date, but the utilities are still sadly
>> out-of-date: bugs and all. EPEL's Xfce is especially out-of-date
>> and only includes only a few Xfce plug ins. Most of my favorite
>> utilties/programs are still sadly out-of-date and include various
>> old bugs and loss of functionality.
>
> It's called "stability". This is reason why you choose EL for server
> (and often for workstation). You can use it for many years after without
> worrying that some totally incompatible system or UI change will be
> pushed and will force you to change the way you work.
>
>> Heads up on XFS. SL 7 installs it by default. FC 21
>> still installs EXT4 by default.
>
> As long as you know what to do, why do you care about defaults?
> Personally I still use ext4 everywhere on SL7 (for various reasons). But
> if you like xfs, you can use it on Fedora just as well.
>
>> Wine on FC21 removes a lot of the bugs and loss of functionality
>> you have to suffer with on SL 6.x when used as a workstation.
>> And I have to say, Wine is starting to come into its own -- its is still
>> Beta code though.
>
> E.g. I just tried to use wine in container and it worked without a
> problem.
>
> Basically I just copied fedora.repo/fedora-updates.repo files to SL7
> system, copied Fedora gpg key, then did
>
> # mkdir /srv/fedora20
> # yum --releasever=20 --nogpg --installroot=/srv/fedora20 \
> --disablerepo='*' --enablerepo=fedora --enablerepo=updates install \
> systemd passwd yum fedora-release vim-minimal wine
>
> Then you just do something like
> systemd-nspawn -D /srv/fedora20/ -M wine su -c 'DISPLAY=:0 notepad'
> (you can run any other wine application)
>
> Of course, you can do it any different way, e.g. set password or add
> user and boot container properly as described in
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemdLightweightContainers
>
> Or bind mount your home into container as described here
> http://maci0.wordpress.com/2014/05/02/run-any-applications-on-rhel7-containerized-with-3d-acceleration-and-pulseaudio-steam-pidgin-vlc/
>
> Or do it some other way. Don't bother with LXC, it's overkill for simple
> task like this, plus libvirt-based LXC has various problems and is in
> very immature state, and classic LXC conflicts with selinux (other than
> that being very usable on SL7, though).
>
>
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