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Matthias Schroeder <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:57:36 +0200
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Michael Mansour wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>> This affects us.  Imagine that all the CentOS users show up to use
>> Scientific Linux.  Imagine all their maintainers and developers show
>> up, too.
> 
> I personally don't think that's a bad thing especially if it allows SL to have
> the ability to open more of it's infrastructure to 3rd party "extensions" like
> the CentOS team have done for CentOS Plus etc.

You are assuming that it is only the lack of developers that prevents SL 
from having more "extensions" and newer versions.

I rather see it as the desire of the maintainers to stay in sync and 
compatible with The Upstream Distribution. And that is a policy I support.

Some authors in this thread said something about 'competion' and 
'getting more users for SL'. I do not think at all that CentOS is a 
competitor, and I see no fight over clients.

The purpose of SL is to provide an enterprise quality distribution, with 
a well defined community in mind. The aim of SL is not to take over the 
world.

> 
> For example, EL5 is stuck in the php 5.1.6 and MySQL 5.0.45 days and when you
> want applications which relay on at least php 5.2.x (and so many do) then you
> have to go to 3rd party repo's which may be incompatible with other repo's
> used in the environment.
> 
> It's really like opening a can of worms

Exactly. Better keep it close.

> and IMHO CentOS got the right mix by
> having their own team of developers providing those packages which TUV doesn't.

Long live CentOS. I wish they find a satisfactory solution for the 
issue, and keep providing CentOS, and satisfy all the clients for which 
SL is not new enough.

Matthias

> 
> In case there's a question, I use SL exclusively for over 30 Linux servers,
> never used CentOS.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael.
> 
>> Keith
>>
>> ------------------------ forwarded message ---------------------------
>>
>> (http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/07/30/130249/CentOS-Project-
>> Administrator-Goes-AWOL):
>>
>> Lance Davis, the main project administrator for CentOS, a popular 
>> free 'rebuild' of Red Hat's Enterprise Linux, appears to have gone 
>> AWOL. In an open letter* from his fellow CentOS developers, they 
>> describe the precarious situation the project has been put in. There 
>> have been attempts to contact him for some time now, as he's the 
>> sole administrator for the centos.org domain, the IRC channels, and 
>> apparently, CentOS funds. One can only hope that Lance gets in 
>> contact with them and gets things sorted out.
>>
>> * Open Letter (http://www.centos.org/):
>>
>> July 30, 2009 04:39 UTC
>>
>> This is an Open Letter to Lance Davis from fellow CentOS Developers
>>
>> It is regrettable that we are forced to send this letter but we are
>> left with no other options. For some time now we have been attempting
>> to resolve these problems:
>>
>> You seem to have crawled into a hole ... and this is not acceptable.
>>
>> You have long promised a statement of CentOS project funds; to this
>> date this has not appeared.
>>
>> You hold sole control of the centos.org domain with no deputy; this 
>> is not proper.
>>
>> You have, it seems, sole 'Founders' rights in the IRC channels with 
>> no deputy ; this is not proper.
>>
>> When I (Russ) try to call the phone numbers for UK Linux, and for you
>> individually, I get a telco intercept 'Lines are temporarily busy' 
>> for the last two weeks. Finally yesterday, a voicemail in your voice 
>> picked up, and I left a message urgently requesting a reply. 
>> Karanbir also reports calling and leaving messages without your reply.
>>
>> Please do not kill CentOS through your fear of shared management of the
>> project.
>>
>> Clearly the project dies if all the developers walk away.
>>
>> Please contact me, or any other signer of this letter at once, to
>> arrange for the required information to keep the project alive at the
>> 'centos.org' domain.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Russ Herrold
>> Ralph Angenendt
>> Karanbir Singh
>> Jim Perrin
>> Donavan Nelson
>> Tim Verhoeven
>> Tru Huynh
>> Johnny Hughes
>>
>> -- 
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Michael Lauzon
>> --
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>> --------------------- end forwarded message ---------------------------
>>
>> -- 
>> Keith Lofstrom          [log in to unmask]         Voice (503)-520-
>> 1993 KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- "Your Ideas in Silicon"
>> Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analog, Digital, and Scan ICs
> ------- End of Original Message -------

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