On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 03:37:18 -0700 (PDT)
Radu-Cristian FOTESCU <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> > Were there any efforts undertook to bring to SL/RH world NetBSD's
> > pkgsrc package management?
>
> > It is based on one fact - that all applications are born in source
> > first. :)
>
> > Second, all binaries go to /usr/pkg directory! No
> > more /usr, /usr/local, etc Linux direcotory idiosyncrasy
>
> Jesus Christ! (Insert your God here, Richard Dawkins allowed too :-))

Hi,

I went the easiest way and didn't state that /usr/pkg is populated with
all necessary subdirectories (e.g. /usr/pkg/etc).


> RHEL's (or TUV's) rebuilds like SL and CentOS are _meant_ to be
> STABLE!

So _does_ NetBSD. You get clean stable system plus __one__ package
system with __one__ binaries repository. Most of the apps are made for
NetBSD and can't be treated as third party, just contrary, I'd say
those binaries are integral part of NetBSD system! Of course pkgsrc
system is beyond the scope of NetBSD system core activity but it _is_
NetBSD sibling. It is so good it was incorporated to other great
operating systems.

> I know pkgsrc is a great idea, it's just you should rather try to use
> it with Gentoo or Slackware, not with SL5 :-)
(...)
> As for "all applications are born in source first", I agree, but I
> strongly disagree with the fact that you should compile a lot of
> packages -- this is why I refuse to use Gentoo: after all,:
(...)
> (2) It's 101% un-ecological! Why having 2,000 people wasting their
> CPU time and lifetime to build the same package 2,000 times, when a
> single-time build + establishing a binary repository would be
> definitely a better approach?

Those programmers or maintainers who make pkgsrc packages which in
nature comprise of compiling and installing recipes must have them
checked at least once e.g. compiled. :) So in result a huge binary repo
is being created and available to users. You don't have to compile your
applications (with a few exceptions like mplayer). They are ready
for D/L right away.

BTW. I went into silence for a while as I had to compile my Sylpheed. It
happened I used a version without spell-checker. 10 minutes later I got
the MA ready to use! Believe me, it was a pleasure. :) Now I correct my
English writings as I type it.

I hope I won't be seen as NetBSD Vth Column on SL ground. :)
My quest whether someone tried to evaluate or made feasibility study
on transferring pkgsrc to SL/RH is still valid.

Cheers,
pp
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